NBA liga 2011/2012 - 1. deo

Ray Allen ::Neka mi ne zamere fanovi Stiv Nesa, ali za mene je Kid najbolji plejmejker u poslednjih 15ak godina.

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Иако нисам фан Стива Неш-а не можемо да поредимо Кида и Неш-а као играче само на основу резултата њихових клубова. Нарочито кад се узме у обзир да су ти Нетси играли у (кроз историју незапамћеној) трагично лошој конкуренцији на истоку... Ти Нетси су у првом финалу почишћени од Лејкерса, у следећем су изгубили 4-2 од Сан Антонија, а истим резултатом од истог противника је у финалу запада поражен и Далас предвођен Нешом.

Мој је утисак да Неш има неупоредиво боље проценте шута, а ако узмемо у обзир да је он ипак двоструки МВП НБА лиге (што до сада није пошло за руком ни Кобију ни Шеку), мислим да по неким објективним критеријумима тас на ваги никако не може да превагне на Кидову страну.

Друга је ствар што је и мени Кид симпатичнији (Неша сам замрзео још кад је са Дирком и Ван Екселом избацио Сакраменто) више ми се свиђа његов стил, пре свега је бољи одбрамбени играч, али опет не могу да кажем да је бољи.

Kid je svakako kompletniji kosarkas. Ne zaboravite da je Nes dve sezone bio rezerva Kidu u Finiksu. Naravno, davno je to bilo i druge su bile okolnosti, ali ne treba zanemariti ni tu cinjenicu.

NBA Players Going Overseas

Jeff Adrien
Old Team: Golden State Warriors (free agent) | Position: SF
New Team: Benetton Treviso (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out clause


Lavoy Allen
Old Team: Philadelphia 76ers | Position: F
New Team: Strasbourg (France) | Reported Deal: With opt-out clause


David Andersen
Old Team: New Orleans Hornets | Position: F-C
New Team: Montepaschi Siena (Italy) | Reported Deal: Three years, no opt-out


Hilton Armstrong
Old Team: Atlanta Hawks (free agent) | Position: F-C
New Team: ASVEL Villeurbanne (France) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Leandro Barbosa
Old Team: Toronto Raptors | Position: G
New Team: Flamengo (Brazil) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Nicolas Batum
Old Team: Portland Trail Plazers | Position: G-F
New Team: SLUC Nancy (France) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Keith Benson
Old Team: Atlanta Hawks | Position: C
New Team: Dinamo Sassari (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


DeJuan Blair
Old Team: San Antonio Spurs | Position: F-C
New Team: Krasnye Krylya (Russia) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Trevor Booker
Old Team: Washington Wizards | Position: PF
New Team: Bnei Hasharon (Israel) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Craig Brackins
Old Team: Philadelphia 76ers | Position: zpF
New Team: Maccabi Ashdod (Israel) | Reported Deal: Short-term (few months), with opt-out


Rasual Butler
Old Team: Chicago Bulls (free agent) | Position: G-F
New Team: Gran Canaria (Spain) | Reported Deal: No opt-out


Wilson Chandler
Old Team: Denver Nuggets (restricted free agent) | Position: F
New Team: Zhejiang Guangsha (China) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Earl Clark
Old Team: Orlando Magic (free agent) | Position: F
New Team: Zhejiang (China) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Austin Daye
Old Team: Detroit Pistons | Position: SF
New Team: Unnamed (Russia) | Reported Deal: Two months, with opt-out clause


Jon Diebler
Old Team: Portland Trail Blazers | Position: SG
New Team: Panionios (Greece) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Semih Erden
Old Team: Cleveland Cavaliers | Position: C
New Team: Besiktas (Turkey) | Reported Deal: With opt-out clause


Jordan Farmar
Old Team: New Jersey Nets | Position: PG
New Team: Maccabi Tel-Aviv (Israel) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Danilo Gallinari
Old Team: Denver Nuggets | Position: SF
New Team: Olimpia Milano (Italy) | Reported Deal: With opt-out


Alonzo Gee
Old Team: Cleveland Cavaliers | Position: G-F
New Team: Asseco Prokom (Poland) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Danny Green
Old Team: San Antonio Spurs | Position: G-F
New Team: Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Justin Harper
Old Team: Orlando Magic | Position: PF
New Team: Strasbourg (France) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Ersan Ilyasova
Old Team: Milwaukee Bucks | Position: F
New Team: Fenerbahce Ulker (Turkey) | Reported Deal: Three years, no opt-out


Pooh Jeter
Old Team: Sacramento Kings (free agent) | Position: PG
New Team: Joventut Badalona (Spain) | Reported Deal: No opt-out


Trey Johnson
Old Team: Los Angeles Lakers | Position: SG
New Team: Teramo (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Nenad Krstic
Old Team: Boston Celtics (free agent) | Position: C
New Team: CSKA Moscow (Russia) | Reported Deal: Two years, no opt-out


Acie Law
Old Team: Golden State Warriors (free agent) | Position: PG
New Team: Partizan Belgrade (Serbia) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Gani Lawal
Old Team: Phoenix Suns | Position: PF
New Team: Zastal (Poland) | Reported Deal: No opt-out


Ty Lawson
Old Team: Denver Nuggets | Position: PG
New Team: Zalgiris Kaunas (Lithuania) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Jon Leuer
Old Team: Milwaukee Bucks | Position: F
New Team: Skyliners Frankfurt (Germany) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Kenyon Martin
Old Team: Denver Nuggets (free agent) | Position: PF
New Team: Xingiang Guanghui (China) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Patty Mills
Old Team: Portland Trail Blazers | Position: PG
New Team: Melbourne Tigers (Australia) | Reported Deal: Includes opt-out


E'Twaun Moore
Old Team: Boston Celtics | Position: G
New Team: Benetton Treviso (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Timofey Mozgov
Old Team: Denver Nuggets | Position: C
New Team: Khimki Moscow (Russia) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Chandler Parsons
Old Team: Houston Rockets | Position: F
New Team: Cholet (France) | Reported Deal: With opt-out


Nikola Pekovic
Old Team: Minnesota Timberwolves | Position: C
New Team: Partizan Belgrade (Serbia) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Chris Quinn
Old Team: San Antonio Spurs (free agent) | Position: G
New Team: Khimki Moscow (Russia) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Kevin Seraphin
Old Team: Washington Wizards | Position: PF
New Team: Caja Laboral Vitoria (Spain) | Reported Deal: With opt-out


Mustafa Shakur
Old Team: Washington Wizards (free agent) | Position: PG
New Team: Pau-Orthez (France) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Kyle Singler
Old Team: Detroit Pistons | Position: SF
New Team: Lucentum Alicante (Spain) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


J.R. Smith
Old Team: Denver Nuggets (free agent) | Position: G-f
New Team: Shanxi (China) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Darius Songaila
Old Team: Philadelphia 76ers (free agent) | Position: F-C
New Team: Galatasaray (Turkey) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


DaJuan Summers
Old Team: Detroit Pistons (free agent) | Position: F
New Team: Montepaschi Siena (Italy) | Reported Deal: Two years, opt-out after one


Pape Sy
Old Team: Atlanta Hawks | Position: F
New Team: Gravelines (France) | Reported Deal: With opt-out


Garett Temple
Old Team: Charlotte Bobcats (free agent) | Position: G
New Team: Casale (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Nikola Vucevic
Old Team: Philadelphia 76ers | Position: F-C
New Team: Buducnost (Montenegro) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Sasha Vujacic
Old Team: New Jersey Nets (free agent) | Position: SG
New Team: Anadolu Efes (Turkey) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Von Wafer
Old Team: Boston Celtics (free agent) | Position: G
New Team: Venoli Cremona (Italy) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Sonny Weems
Old Team: Toronto Raptors (restricted free agent) | Position: G-F
New Team: Zalgiris Kaunas (Lithuania) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out


Mario West
Old Team: New Jersey Nets (free agnet) | Position: G-F
New Team: Tezenis Verona (Italy) | Reported Deal: Terms not reported


Deron Williams
Old Team: New Jersey Nets | Position: PG
New Team: Besiktas (Turkey) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Reggie Williams
Old Team: Golden State Warriors | Position: G-F
New Team: Caja Laboral (Spain) | Reported Deal: One year, with opt-out


Sean Williams
Old Team: New Jersey Nets (free agent) | Position: F-C
New Team: Maccabi Haifa (Israel) | Reported Deal: One year, no opt-out



bez obzira što je na listi određen broj igrača koji ni ovako ne bi ove sezone izborili mjesto u NBA rosterima, spisak igrača je zaista impresivan. Na njemu već sada ima još 5-6 novih imena, a do sredine oktobra će ih biti još barem 15-ak. Za sada Kina ima manje imena, ali su nešto zvučnija, u Evropi ima jako puno "garbage minute" igrača.

Kid je statisticki gledano bolji igrac. Koliko je samo tripl-dabla imao. Iako su obojica umetnici meni je Steva veci umetnik. Jednostavno, obozavam da ga gledam. Gotivim ja i Kida i placem sto nema vise takvih plejeva vec sve vise skorera. Ipak, Nash za mene uvek ispred. Ne govorim o igrackim kvalitetima. Jednostavno, ko mi je drazi.

ako ćemo igrački, Kid je nenadjebiv...to što je 2 puta za redom bio MVP (Neš), ne daje mu za pravo da je bolji...inače ako pričamo o tom tipu plejmejkera, meni je Džon Stokton nenadjebiv za obojicu

Možda je Kid malo kompletniji igrač. Stevo je imao tu (ne)sreću da gotovo cijelu karijeru ne igra odbranu (jer Don Nelson i Majk D Antoni ne obraćaju puno pažnje na to).

Ipak, meni je Stevica draži

Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant wants $15 million to play for
Virtus Bologna of the Italian League during the NBA lockout, Bolognabasket.it reported Tuesday

Zek Rendolf rekao da mu ne smetatrenutno stanje, kao i situacija u kojoj ce on zaraditi 5 miliona $. Ako do novembra ne bude napretka, moguc je dolazak u Evropu, a voleo bi da on i Mark Gasol igraju u istom timu...

A sto se tice rasprave Kid-Nes, moj stav je poznat... Za nijansu bolji Nes...

Jay-Z ovako vidi dres svoje ekipe za godinu dana. Makar će izbor za najružniji NBA dres biti neobično lak... Kakva kičerica

Jedan od jačih komentara koje sam video

Inspired by David Stern, I announce that if Jessica Alba doesn't date me THIS WEEK then I'm done with her. DONE.

NBA ligu menja za salon nameštaja
IZVOR: B92, ESPN
Dok su neki igrači odlučili da zaigraju van Sjedinjenih Država dok u NBA ligi traje ’lokaut’ Delonte Vest je našao potpuno drugačiji posao od košarke.




Pošto dogovor između igrača i čelnika lige još uvek nije postignut, Vest je u sredu objavio da je dobio posao u jednom salonu nameštaja u Merilendu.

Uz to, Vest je na svom profilu na društvenoj mreži Twitter putem fotografija svojim fanovima otkrio kako je izgledao njegov prvi radni dan.

Od kada je ’lokaut’ postao izvestan, Vest je više puta objavio da je u potrazi za poslom, a u avgustu je rekao da će prodavati noževe, što po njemu i „nije tako loš posao jer dobija i mikrofon i sve uz to“.

Tokom sedam sezona u NBA ligi, Vest je beležio 9,7 poena i 3,7 asistencije po utakmici. Prošle sezone branio je boje Boston Seltiksa, za koje je odigrao 24 utakmice.

Top 10 small forwards in NBA history
At 22, Kevin Durant (left) has won two scoring titles. At 26, LeBron James (right) has won two MVPs. Both have plenty of time to build on those accomplishments, but where will they end up on this list, currently dominated by Boston Celtics?

Honorable mentions: Adrian Dantley, Alex English, Bobby Jones, Bernard King, Chris Mullin.


10. Paul Pierce (1998-present)
Only Larry Bird and John Havlicek — spoiler alert: Look for those two later — have scored more points as Boston Celtics than Pierce, a nine-time All-Star who has averaged more than 22 points per game in his career. Unlike those Boston greats, Pierce seemed destined to be remembered as a great player on mediocre teams. Then Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen showed up, and Pierce proved he could be a great player on a great team, earning Finals MVP as Boston won the 2008 title.


9. Dominique Wilkins (1982-99)
He'll always be known as one of the greatest dunkers in NBA history, and for good reason. After all, how many people can say they beat Michael Jordan in a dunk contest, as 'Nique did in 1985? (MJ got him back three years later.) But "The Human Highlight Film" could score in a variety of ways. A poor 3-point shooter, he slashed to the basket and shot over 81 percent from the line, which helped him average more than 25 points for 10 straight seasons. Though he never came close to a championship, thanks mainly to the Celtics, he was the only reason to watch the Hawks for more than a decade.


8. Rick Barry (1965-80)
If kids today know Rick Barry at all, they probably think of him as the guy who shot dorky underhanded free throws. What they may not know is he made 90 percent of those foul shots, a career mark surpassed only by Mark Price and Steve Nash. They probably have no idea he was an explosive scorer who averaged 35.6 points in his second NBA season and, after a stint in the ABA, led the Warriors to the NBA title in 1975. A slick passer and ball handler, Barry was a mighty offensive force. The kids snickering at his form would do well to emulate him.


7. James Worthy (1982-94)
His career averages of 17.6 points and 5.1 rebounds are nothing special, nor is his status as the third-best player on the Lakers teams of the 1980s. What makes Worthy an all-time great was his elevated play when the stakes were highest. "Big Game James" averaged 21.1 points in playoff games, including 21.5, 23.7 and 22.0 in LA's three title runs (1985, '87 and '88). In Game 7 of the 1988 NBA Finals, he had 36 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists — one of the best big-game performances in league history.


6. Scottie Pippen (1987-2008)
Because all his greatest successes came with Michael Jordan, there is a tendency to either overrate or underrate Pippen. Everyone can agree he was a remarkably versatile player, an outstanding defender and a key member of six championship teams. But was he a superstar in his own right? He did finish third in MVP voting the season Jordan played baseball, but his skills and temperament seemed more suited for a Robin than a Batman. Still, if it's fair to say that Jordan brought out the best in Pippen, the reverse is also true.


5. LeBron James (2003-present)
It's fashionable and fun to bash LeBron these days for his perceived flaws as a player and person. Fair enough. Until he wins a title — and maybe even after — he'll deserve some scorn. But few players have left such a large footprint on the NBA at such a young age. He's won a scoring title, two MVP awards and averaged 27.7 points, 7.1 rebounds and 7.0 assists — all before his 27th birthday. Even the hate he evokes from so many fans is a testament to his impact. If he wasn't this good, no one would care.


4. Elgin Baylor (1958-71)
For now, LeBron James' career is similar to that of Baylor, who put up incredible numbers (career averages of 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 4.6 assists) but never won a title, thanks mostly to the Boston Celtics dynasty. While the 6-foot-5 Baylor wasn't as physically dominant as LeBron, he had an unstoppable running bank shot that helped him average more than 34 points for three straight seasons and make 10 All-NBA first teams. A knee injury hampered Baylor in the second half of his career. If LeBron stays healthy, he'll probably pass Baylor on this list, but how about the top three?


3. John Havlicek (1962-78)
If Bill Russell was the anchor of the Celtics dynasty and Bob Cousy was the motor, then Havlicek was "the guts of the team," as Boston coach Red Auerbach called him. Tenacious and tireless on both ends of the court, "Hondo" made 11 All-NBA first or second teams and averaged 20.8 points, 6.3 rebounds and 4.8 assists for his career. An eight-time champion, he's still best known for his play that sealed the Eastern Conference title in 1965: "Havlicek stole the ball!"


2. Julius Erving (1971-87)
Dr. J gets a slight nod over Baylor and Havlicek because of the way he revolutionized the game. With his spectacular athleticism and creativity, he ushered in the modern era of basketball. A three-time ABA MVP, he also made a huge impact on the NBA after the leagues merged, winning an MVP in 1981 and a title in 1983. Just as importantly, he served as an ambassador for the sport with class and dignity, an area where modern superstars often fall short.


1. Larry Bird (1979-92)
He might be the worst athlete on this list, but the Hick from French Lick is arguably the best shooter, most ruthless competitor and smartest basketball player ever to man the position — or any position. It's well documented how Bird and Magic Johnson rejuvenated the NBA with their rivalry in the 1980s, with Bird claiming three titles and three straight MVP awards. His trash talking is also legendary, but unlike many of today's yappers, Bird almost always backed it up.

Penzionisao se Ilgauskas.

jel moze neko da napise sta je bilo na poslednjem sastanku, da li NBA pocinje na vreme ili se nastavlja lokaut

Za sada nema govora o pocetku sezone, igraci su i dalje nezadovoljni...

Neki izvori kazu da se Wejd derao na Sterna koliko je nezadovoljan bio statusom igraca...




PS: Slilka je tu ako nista drugo onda zbog fenomenalnog imidza Berona Dejvisa

drex, zar Big O nije bio SF ? Ne mogu da verujem da ga nema u 10 naj od naj, jedini igrač u NBA istoriji koji je prosečno imao tripl dabl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Robertson

može i vikipedija da posluži, ja sam iz čitanja ranije Oskara Robertsona doživljavao kao beka a ovde piše da je bio plejmejker. Sigurno je da SF nije bio

Baron kao burazer Bin Ladina. Kakav smeker

Nolle, Hik je u pravu, Oskar je play, kačio sam već na ovoj temi i najbolje playeve lige, gdje je Big-O čini mi se na drugom mjestu iza Magica, a ispred Boba Cousya, Natea Arshibalda, Bad Boy Thomasa, Stocktona i ostalih...

Imao sam neki trip da je trojka, pošto su LeBrona poredili sa njim...

LeBron je igrao u Kavsima pleja u rookie sezoni Kao Bjelica u Zvezdi. To naravno nije dugo potrajalo.

Robertson je pokrivao pozicije 1, 2 i 3. Najcesce je igrao pleja, ali igrao je i krilo kao sto je Nolle napisao.
Posto ste spomenuli Robertsona pala mi je na pamet Americka reprezentacija sa OI u Rimu 1960. godine. Pored Oskara u tom timu su bili i Dz. Vest, Dz. Lukas, V. Belami... Po mnogima to je bila najjaca amaterska ekipa koja se ikada pojavila na nekom velikom takmicenju. Zabelezili su 8 pobeda, a protivnike su prosecno pobedjivali sa preko 40 poena razlike. Jugoslovenska kosarkaska reprezentacija svoj najtezi poraz u istoriji pretrpela je upravo od tog americkog tima. Izgubili smo sa 62 poena razlike. Utakmica gotovo da nije ni pocela, a Jugoslvija (Korac, Daneu, Djerdja) je gubila 32:1. Protiv Sovjetskog Saveza imali su Ameri prednost od samo 7 poena na poluvremenu, ali su onda za prvih 5 minuta drugog poluvremena postigli 20 poena i resili utakmicu. U finalu su savladali Brazil, a briljirao je centar sjajni Volt Belami. 10 od 12 kosarkasa SAD igralo je tada na koledzu, a prosecna starost igraca je bila tek nesto preko 22 godine. Trener je bio legendarni Pit Njuel. U sastavu su bila samo 3 tamnoputa igraca. Vazno je istaci da su u Rim otisli oslabljeni. U sastavu nisu bili velikani Dz. Havlicek i L. Vilkins. Reprezentacija SAD sa OI u Rimu primljena je 2010. godine u kosarkasku kucu slavnih.